Yeast infections and prostatitis - Prostatitis Forum & Social Network2024-03-29T06:41:09Zhttp://prostatitis.ning.com/forum/topics/yeast-infection-diflcan-prostatitis-krongrad?groupUrl=causes-of-prostatitis&commentId=2201951%3AComment%3A29843&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIt is an interesting question…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2011-11-29:2201951:Comment:298432011-11-29T12:45:50.510ZDavehttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/Dave
<p>It is an interesting question about a fungal cause. Unfortunately, most urologists I have seen recently-ish have stated that they believe that most of the bacteria and/or fungi that may cause "prostatitis" are normally present to some degree in otherwise healthy patients, hence even more difficulty in culturing. They believe that for some people (i.e. us) the body becomes overly sensitive to the normal flora and hence inflammation is the result. I don't know how much of this is guess-work…</p>
<p>It is an interesting question about a fungal cause. Unfortunately, most urologists I have seen recently-ish have stated that they believe that most of the bacteria and/or fungi that may cause "prostatitis" are normally present to some degree in otherwise healthy patients, hence even more difficulty in culturing. They believe that for some people (i.e. us) the body becomes overly sensitive to the normal flora and hence inflammation is the result. I don't know how much of this is guess-work vs evidence determined.</p>
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<p>Not wanting to take your thread in a completely different direction, but I wonder if there is any correlation between prostatitis and other immune-overreaction based conditions e.g. asthma (which I have), eczema, food allergies etc.</p> Big assumption. There are var…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2011-11-29:2201951:Comment:294612011-11-29T03:42:07.698ZArnon Krongrad, MDhttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/krongrad
<p>Big assumption. There are various anti-fungals. This is something for which I'd consult an infectious disease specialist.</p>
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<p>Probiotics restore intestinal flora. They're used to counteract the effects of oral antibiotics, which can cause a whole list of unwanted effects, including destruction of normal bowel bacteria. (<a target="_self" href="http://prostatitis.ning.com/group/chronicprostatitistreatment/forum/topics/effects-of-long-term">click here</a>).</p>
<p>Big assumption. There are various anti-fungals. This is something for which I'd consult an infectious disease specialist.</p>
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<p>Probiotics restore intestinal flora. They're used to counteract the effects of oral antibiotics, which can cause a whole list of unwanted effects, including destruction of normal bowel bacteria. (<a target="_self" href="http://prostatitis.ning.com/group/chronicprostatitistreatment/forum/topics/effects-of-long-term">click here</a>).</p> assuming yeast is believed to…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2011-11-29:2201951:Comment:298412011-11-29T03:22:55.508ZDoug Thornhttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/DougThorn
<p>assuming yeast is believed to be a factor which medications are commonly used? What about Probiotics?</p>
<p>assuming yeast is believed to be a factor which medications are commonly used? What about Probiotics?</p> If someone determined, it wou…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2011-11-29:2201951:Comment:295522011-11-29T02:08:29.540ZArnon Krongrad, MDhttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/krongrad
<p><strong><em>If</em></strong> someone determined, it would help to direct choice of medication, sure. But it's the determining that's the problem.</p>
<p><strong><em>If</em></strong> someone determined, it would help to direct choice of medication, sure. But it's the determining that's the problem.</p> Very interesting. If someone…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2011-11-29:2201951:Comment:295512011-11-29T00:31:20.751ZDoug Thornhttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/DougThorn
<p>Very interesting. If someone determined they had yeast or Candida. Would this impact treatment with Anti-biotics, specifically would it impede the effect of the medications??</p>
<p>Thanks again for your responses</p>
<p>Very interesting. If someone determined they had yeast or Candida. Would this impact treatment with Anti-biotics, specifically would it impede the effect of the medications??</p>
<p>Thanks again for your responses</p> Certainty is not really a par…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2011-11-29:2201951:Comment:297562011-11-29T00:02:49.628ZArnon Krongrad, MDhttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/krongrad
<p>Certainty is not really a part of this equation. At best, one may get some inferences. So ...</p>
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<p>In the acute situation, with fever and chills and maybe radiographically evident abscess, especially in immunocompromised patients, it's posssible that yeast is involved. In such cases, an abscess aspiration would, as one example, help to establish by culture that there is yeast. So would a good response to antifungal.</p>
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<p>In the subacute or chronic situation, such as…</p>
<p>Certainty is not really a part of this equation. At best, one may get some inferences. So ...</p>
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<p>In the acute situation, with fever and chills and maybe radiographically evident abscess, especially in immunocompromised patients, it's posssible that yeast is involved. In such cases, an abscess aspiration would, as one example, help to establish by culture that there is yeast. So would a good response to antifungal.</p>
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<p>In the subacute or chronic situation, such as apparently what you are describing, it is very unlikely that one could get definite proof of yeast being the cause. This is partly because getting a theoretically relevant organism from the relevant area, which may be the periphery of the prostate and/or the prostate capsule, could be impossible to retrieve and culture. And partly because yeast are all around us and interpreting a possible contaminant is a problem. <br/><br/>In the subacute or chronic situation, the evidence is probably at best on the basis of a positive response to antifungal medications.</p> Then what's the best course o…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2011-11-28:2201951:Comment:297542011-11-28T23:49:15.334ZDoug Thornhttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/DougThorn
<p>Then what's the best course of discovering whether yeast is at play for certain??</p>
<p>Thanks for your response</p>
<p>Then what's the best course of discovering whether yeast is at play for certain??</p>
<p>Thanks for your response</p> Generally speaking, yes, yeas…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2011-11-28:2201951:Comment:294592011-11-28T22:48:18.370ZArnon Krongrad, MDhttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/krongrad
<p>Generally speaking, yes, yeast can cause prostatitis. These yeasts can include <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20151862" target="_blank">Blastomyces</a> and <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20002845" target="_blank">Cryptococcus</a> and others. If you carry out <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=yeast%20prostatitis" target="_blank">this search</a>, you'll see more references. None of that proves anything about your case, obviously, which may be due to…</p>
<p>Generally speaking, yes, yeast can cause prostatitis. These yeasts can include <a target="_blank" href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20151862">Blastomyces</a> and <a target="_blank" href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20002845">Cryptococcus</a> and others. If you carry out <a target="_blank" href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=yeast%20prostatitis">this search</a>, you'll see more references. None of that proves anything about your case, obviously, which may be due to yeast, bacteria, or who know what else?</p>