Young, Swedish patient and opinion on injections - Prostatitis Forum & Social Network2024-03-30T07:36:29Zhttp://prostatitis.ning.com/forum/topics/young-swedish-patient-and-opinion-on-injections?xg_source=activity&id=2201951%3ATopic%3A33446&feed=yes&xn_auth=noGoran, can I talk to you abou…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2013-10-05:2201951:Comment:434662013-10-05T14:15:00.623ZMaluhttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/Malu
<p>Goran, can I talk to you about this?<cite><br/></cite></p>
<p>Goran, can I talk to you about this?<cite><br/></cite></p> I'd report any scam advertise…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2013-04-19:2201951:Comment:404492013-04-19T19:36:50.693Znovikhttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/PaulZalewski
<p>I'd report any scam advertised on this forum, especially when the pattern is clear. You gave me no choice. I just cannot read your 'business oriented' posts, lad not to mention your 'web&eshop'. You call yourself 'we / us' wherever you can. Oh and thank you for your permission regarding my free time. </p>
<p>I'd report any scam advertised on this forum, especially when the pattern is clear. You gave me no choice. I just cannot read your 'business oriented' posts, lad not to mention your 'web&eshop'. You call yourself 'we / us' wherever you can. Oh and thank you for your permission regarding my free time. </p> Sure. Are you reporting just…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2013-04-19:2201951:Comment:401552013-04-19T18:53:21.397ZGoran Shttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/GoranS
<p>Sure. Are you reporting just us or any other of the hundred or so small-business EDTA providers around the globe?</p>
<p>I can't see why anyone would object to the launch of an enhanced product of this kind, for half the price, but feel free to spend your time in whichever way you want.</p>
<p>Sure. Are you reporting just us or any other of the hundred or so small-business EDTA providers around the globe?</p>
<p>I can't see why anyone would object to the launch of an enhanced product of this kind, for half the price, but feel free to spend your time in whichever way you want.</p> Goran - FYI just in case you'…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2013-04-19:2201951:Comment:402622013-04-19T18:23:18.693Znovikhttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/PaulZalewski
<p>Goran - FYI just in case you're unable to make a fair judgment, I am reporting your eshop/website to PayPal for their review. It's not meeting any requirements for the business, you're violating all the ecommerce rules.</p>
<p>Goran - FYI just in case you're unable to make a fair judgment, I am reporting your eshop/website to PayPal for their review. It's not meeting any requirements for the business, you're violating all the ecommerce rules.</p> Goran - you've decided to la…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2013-04-19:2201951:Comment:402592013-04-19T18:01:30.722Znovikhttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/PaulZalewski
<p>Goran - you've decided to launch the pharmaceutical product!? and now you're selling/advertising it here? It's great you're improving on your 'home remedy' prepared by your biotech family but you're on a serious forum and this type of posting should not take place here. When I look at your 'prostaklar. com' website - it reminds me of time when I worked for PayPal and there was a team shutting down websites like yours.</p>
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<p>Goran - you've decided to launch the pharmaceutical product!? and now you're selling/advertising it here? It's great you're improving on your 'home remedy' prepared by your biotech family but you're on a serious forum and this type of posting should not take place here. When I look at your 'prostaklar. com' website - it reminds me of time when I worked for PayPal and there was a team shutting down websites like yours.</p>
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<p>I strongly recommend taking your 'product' website down, or get some legal advice if you're unable to make a clear conclusion yourself or with help from your biotech family.</p> They do work alone in dissolv…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2013-04-18:2201951:Comment:404442013-04-18T09:03:28.334ZGoran Shttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/GoranS
<p>They do work alone in dissolving calcifications - however, if your calculi situation is a result of an infection, new stones might form at the same pace as the EDTA removes them. In a true bacterial prostatitis, a strong antibiotic should be administred along the EDTA, as it is a complement to the EDTA rather than opposite. All three studies done on EDTA in prostatitis were conducted with an use of antibiotics.</p>
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<p>As for myself, I've been on and off it for a few months now, with…</p>
<p>They do work alone in dissolving calcifications - however, if your calculi situation is a result of an infection, new stones might form at the same pace as the EDTA removes them. In a true bacterial prostatitis, a strong antibiotic should be administred along the EDTA, as it is a complement to the EDTA rather than opposite. All three studies done on EDTA in prostatitis were conducted with an use of antibiotics.</p>
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<p>As for myself, I've been on and off it for a few months now, with the use of trimethoprim. It is the only antibiotic that still works for me and its probably the weakest one available for this disease. However, I am now more or less symptom free, but I dont know how much the suppositories did for me. Daily prostate massage probably helped even more. EDTA treatment is a slow process and the prostate should be helped to drain itself, until it's able to do so on its own again.</p>
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<p>They might appear expensive but they are 60% cheaper than the only other magnesium-based suppository on the market. I used those before, but because of the price and my familys background in biochemistry, I figured we could produce them ourselves, and even enhance the product. As I was asked to provide other sufferers I've been in touch with, I decided to launch the product on the open market. They are made and distributed within Europe.</p>
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<p>Currently, we are researching the possibility of adding allicin to the suppository. While it has a documented effect in prostatitis, the bioavailbility appears to be close to non-existent once administred with the oral route. We believe the breakdown of this organic compound can be avoided to a great extent with rectal delivery.</p> Dear Goran
regarding the supp…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2013-04-18:2201951:Comment:404412013-04-18T08:34:31.356ZMichael Voulgarhttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/MichaelVoulgar
<p>Dear Goran</p>
<p>regarding the suppositories</p>
<p>are you supposed to use an antibiotic adjacent to them or do they safely work alone in dissolving the calcifications?</p>
<p>where are those suppositories produced?? in the US?? or somewhere else?? </p>
<p>they seem a bit expensive but i guess its something that someone may try to see what it does, since theres not much left apart from removal of the gland</p>
<p>i ve pretty much tried every treatment in the book </p>
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<p>Dear Goran</p>
<p>regarding the suppositories</p>
<p>are you supposed to use an antibiotic adjacent to them or do they safely work alone in dissolving the calcifications?</p>
<p>where are those suppositories produced?? in the US?? or somewhere else?? </p>
<p>they seem a bit expensive but i guess its something that someone may try to see what it does, since theres not much left apart from removal of the gland</p>
<p>i ve pretty much tried every treatment in the book </p>
<p></p> What is the name of that stuf…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2013-02-03:2201951:Comment:373042013-02-03T14:38:52.580ZHarveyhttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/Harvey
<p>What is the name of that stuff-EDTA,in pharmacy.My urologists didnt hear of such a thing(no surprise to me),as they proven of being not much of use for dealing with CP.</p>
<p>What is the name of that stuff-EDTA,in pharmacy.My urologists didnt hear of such a thing(no surprise to me),as they proven of being not much of use for dealing with CP.</p> Yes, we treated both prostate…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2013-02-02:2201951:Comment:372972013-02-02T17:12:03.073ZGoran Shttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/GoranS
<p>Yes, we treated both prostate and my very infected seminal vesicle with injections. They more or less cured the infected seminal vesicle, but something survived in the prostate and I relapsed. Since then, I've been on oral antibiotics, self-massage and EDT (dissolving calcifications). A, and I feel very good by now. It's been 3 months since my last injection, and I'm more or less symptom free. I seem to relapse a little however once I stop the daily massage, but for each time, the flare-up…</p>
<p>Yes, we treated both prostate and my very infected seminal vesicle with injections. They more or less cured the infected seminal vesicle, but something survived in the prostate and I relapsed. Since then, I've been on oral antibiotics, self-massage and EDT (dissolving calcifications). A, and I feel very good by now. It's been 3 months since my last injection, and I'm more or less symptom free. I seem to relapse a little however once I stop the daily massage, but for each time, the flare-up is less severe.</p>
<p>I attribute much of the success to the EDTA, to the extent that I at this point am working with a biotech company to develop an EDTA product for prostatitis patients only. At this point, we are testing different kinds of EDTA to see which chelates the calcifications most effectivly and which cause the least reactions in the human body. The current EDTA products cost a fortune, and we prostatitis patients need plenty of it. We plan to offer our product at about a third of that price, making this treatment option available for other sufferers than well-capitalized westerners.</p>
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<p>At this point, I feel so good that I don't think I would need another trip to Toth for treatment. Whatever is left in my prostate is located to a small spot that's probably blocked with calcifications/plaque, and I believe these has to be dissolved to achieve a full bacterial eradication. However, a blockage of the seminal vesicle does not consist of material, but rather swelling of the tissue itself. Oral antibiotics would just not clear this part during all my courses, but repeated injections did - not only improvning me to a great extent, but also allowing oral antibiotics to affect whatever was left of the seminal vesicle inflammation.</p>
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<p>For those who decide to undergo the injection treatment, I also recommend staying on oral antibiotics. I have no pain symptoms whatsoever after the injections themselves, allthough they might be some scarring that I'm unaware of.</p> @Goran.You said you relapsed(…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2013-02-02:2201951:Comment:372942013-02-02T16:48:24.847ZHarveyhttp://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/Harvey
<p>@Goran.You said you relapsed(in prostate) at the end of injections treatment,so prostate was treated with injections,or not?What time has passed since injections therapy,and are you still feeling better?And what your thoughts on this ,would you need another trip to see Dr Toth,and feel there is a chance get cured?Thanks </p>
<p>@Goran.You said you relapsed(in prostate) at the end of injections treatment,so prostate was treated with injections,or not?What time has passed since injections therapy,and are you still feeling better?And what your thoughts on this ,would you need another trip to see Dr Toth,and feel there is a chance get cured?Thanks </p>