All Discussions Tagged 'transperineal' - Prostatitis Forum & Social Network2024-03-29T09:08:34Zhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=transperineal&feed=yes&xn_auth=noYoung, Swedish patient and opinion on injectionstag:prostatitis.ning.com,2012-06-27:2201951:Topic:334462012-06-27T22:24:58.078ZGoran Shttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/GoranS
<p>Hi everyone! I'll start with a brief introduction to my case, before the part on antibiotic injections which I do believe interest alot of people.</p>
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<p>I am a 24 year old male from Sweden, and I got my first prostate infection at about 21. Realizing afterwards that I've had it for a while, I started to seek medical care once the symtoms started to get unbearable, but Swedish healthcare is extremly restrictive with antibiotics and I was denied it for months despite several visits…</p>
<p>Hi everyone! I'll start with a brief introduction to my case, before the part on antibiotic injections which I do believe interest alot of people.</p>
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<p>I am a 24 year old male from Sweden, and I got my first prostate infection at about 21. Realizing afterwards that I've had it for a while, I started to seek medical care once the symtoms started to get unbearable, but Swedish healthcare is extremly restrictive with antibiotics and I was denied it for months despite several visits to different doctors, and an extremly symptomatic situation. At last, almost begging on my knees, I got two weeks of cipro, and bought another 4 weeks of cipro on the black market (..).</p>
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<p>This cleared my infection up and restored me 100% - with one exception. I seem to always get re-infected when having unprotected sex, with otherwise non-pathogenic bacteria naturally found in the vagina, as do many prostatitis patients. I cleared up another infection a year later with 10 days of antibiotics, luckily - but another year later, never failing with antibiotics - I took several too short courses with ciprofloxacine and doxycykline, making the bacteria resistant to various levels to those two precious prostatitis agents.</p>
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<p>I tried many other antibiotics on the market, and responded to all of them targeting gram-negatives, but nothing eradicated the infection completely, probably because the infection also had spread and severly affected my right seminal vesicle. Despite living in the capital of Stockholm, there is no medical attention to prostatitis at all, and all of the 10-15 doctors I visited, including a few urologists, kept sending me home claiming I did not have an infection as "antibiotics didn't help", also telling me I should "go home and learn to live with it".</p>
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<p>A year later of failed oral antibiotics (mostly bought on the black market) even when overdosing and combining them, I decided upon going to Italy for injections, and let me start by saying this;</p>
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<p>Injections DO work. It is a valid treatment option for bacterial prostatitis, and should probably be done in all severe, treatment-resistent cases, before the bacteria causes irreversible damage or fails to respond even to injections.</p>
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<p>Wheter massage or injection protocols, there seems to be massive critic to these methods, as they don't cure everyone (in opposite to what other prostatitis treatment?). People seem to say that it either "does work" or "doesn't work", but there is probably a big gray zone inbetween where many patients including myself are.</p>
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<p>I underwent a prodecure of three injections with 10 days inbetween. At my first visit, no bacterial testing had been done but the doctor claimed I had chlamydia judging by the pattern of my calcifications. I know for sure, 100% that my infection is not chlamydial and started dropping many strong arguments for it, but the doctor wouldn't listen and still gave me an injection with the old chlamydia-agent rifampicin, with a little mix of cipro (resistance!) into it.</p>
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<p>I got slow response and started to relapse at about day 6-7. At my second visit, the PCR-tests for chlamydia was negative (no cultures on gram- was done!), but the doctor would still want to use rifampicin. However, it was out of stock and I got amikacin + cipro instead. This improved me GREATLY, the result was INSTANT and my symptomps were 95% down for a full 7 days, until I once again started to relapse from my right seminal vesicle.</p>
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<p>At my last visit, I suggested that we continue the treatment with a forth injection after 6 days instead, with the same antibiotics, but I was denied this. The rifampicin was in stock again and he used it, despite the poor results. I have no explanation for this behavior, other than that the antibiotic is old, out of demand and probably extremly cheap. Needless to say, the results from the third injection were once again poor and I relapsed. Also, unlike the first two injections - the third was painful and today, a week later, I still have pain from it.</p>
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<p>So, statistically - I am one of those who were not helped by the injections, I only got worse from them. Does this mean that they don't work? Doe's it mean that I have non-bacterial prostatitis? That it is treatment resistent and that I should stop pursuing the antibiotic way?</p>
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<p>No. It means that the protocol was performed poorly. The injections have great potential but needs to have some adjustment. First of all, 10 days inbetween is too much. Secondly, my case shows the importance of choosing correct antibiotics even at these concentrations. Thirdly, I couldn't help noticing the needle is awfully thick. This probably allows for a quick injection, but could cause damage. The Chinese claim to have longer and much thinner needles for this reason, and it might be true as their injections lasts for 1-2 minutes while those are done in ~15 seconds including both seminal vesicles.</p>
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<p>The temporary relief but fast relapsing we hear about could maybe be attributed to failure of the doctor rather than the method itself, or patients ejakulating the treatment out too close to the injection. Relapsing in months or years could depend on sexual contact, and not treatment failure.</p>
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<p>I do believe this method works, but that sometimes questionable results are a result from poor performance of the treatment. My recommendation to chronic sufferers thinking about undergoing the procedure, is to go on with it, but not in Italy. I hope my experience and thoughts provide helpful to someone out there, as there is little information on the internet on this from a patients perspective.</p>