Just Posted for some encouragement - Prostatitis Forum & Social Network2024-03-29T13:37:07Zhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/forum/topics/just-posted-for-some?commentId=2201951%3AComment%3A6481&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noUrologists are not schooled t…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2009-09-12:2201951:Comment:64812009-09-12T17:47:07.000ZArnon Krongrad, MDhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/krongrad
Urologists are not schooled to be cynical. Urologists are taught to be data driven, which is very legitimate and quite important to patients. The data have not been available to support surgery for prostatitis. So on this basis there is no rationale for surgery.<br />
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The idea for surgery came from the experience of David Radford, who has quite publicly now shared his story. It did not happen randomly. It did happen after he was warned of risk with surgery and after he was warned that there were no…
Urologists are not schooled to be cynical. Urologists are taught to be data driven, which is very legitimate and quite important to patients. The data have not been available to support surgery for prostatitis. So on this basis there is no rationale for surgery.<br />
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The idea for surgery came from the experience of David Radford, who has quite publicly now shared his story. It did not happen randomly. It did happen after he was warned of risk with surgery and after he was warned that there were no data to support his request for prostatectomy. David is now three or more years out, with complete relief and no negative effects from surgery. He is the first of his kind -- relieved, functional, and public -- and very few people know he exists.<br />
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There is no surprise at all that doctors do not want to do prostatectomy for prostatitis. Much as the Spanish were not eager to sail to the ends of the Earth before Columbus did and showed that it wasn't flat. How can you know in the absence of data?<br />
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To move us forward will require more experiences with surgery for prostatitis, more public sharing of observations, including by such men as David Radford, and more dessimation of the observations that "the earth is not flat." This will not happen quickly, no matter how zealous or correct are the the men who believe that surgery for prostatitis can be salutary in some cases.<br />
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As we move ahead, it will not help us and/or be legitimate to condemn and/or dismiss doctors who are rightly first doing no harm. Calm, measured, objective data are the only way forward. It will take time to compile them. That is the nature of real, legitimate, and sustainable progress. I agree that this debilitatin…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2009-09-12:2201951:Comment:64612009-09-12T00:56:47.000ZMikehttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/Bill41
I agree that this debilitating disease does not get the national exposure it needs to get an increase in the quality and effectiveness of available protocols and treatment.<br />
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On the issue of a Doctor demonstrating the degree of apparent narrow mindedness you describe, I say...its time to get a new doctor. On the other hand my experience tells me that most urologists are schooled to be very cynical about using prostate removal surgery to solve this problem. In my case I consulted several doctors…
I agree that this debilitating disease does not get the national exposure it needs to get an increase in the quality and effectiveness of available protocols and treatment.<br />
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On the issue of a Doctor demonstrating the degree of apparent narrow mindedness you describe, I say...its time to get a new doctor. On the other hand my experience tells me that most urologists are schooled to be very cynical about using prostate removal surgery to solve this problem. In my case I consulted several doctors that I have seen for treatment for chronic prostatitis who, to a man, urged me not to have my prostate removed. I am thankful today that I did not follow their advice. After proof reading when I sa…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2009-09-11:2201951:Comment:64422009-09-11T04:54:29.000ZSteven Winterhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/StevenWinter
After proof reading when I said taking into him ,I meant the urologist that did the TURP.I will blame the sloppy writing on my pain meds.<br />
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Steve
After proof reading when I said taking into him ,I meant the urologist that did the TURP.I will blame the sloppy writing on my pain meds.<br />
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Steve