Pathology report - Prostatitis Forum & Social Network2024-03-29T00:42:21Zhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/forum/topics/pathology-report?commentId=2201951%3AComment%3A9151&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noMauricio,
Nobody here can be…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2010-11-22:2201951:Comment:91532010-11-22T08:39:40.000ZArnon Krongrad, MDhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/krongrad
Mauricio,<br />
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Nobody here can be your doctor, so we cannot advise you on specific diagnostic steps as you requeste. However, it is surely obvious that any patient with recurring symptoms should be working closely with a qualified, interested doctor.<br />
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Jon is right: Surgery is not an appropriate option for patients who have had symptoms for 3 months.<br />
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Mauricio,<br />
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Nobody here can be your doctor, so we cannot advise you on specific diagnostic steps as you requeste. However, it is surely obvious that any patient with recurring symptoms should be working closely with a qualified, interested doctor.<br />
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Jon is right: Surgery is not an appropriate option for patients who have had symptoms for 3 months.<br />
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<b>Admin note:</b> Please delete the <i>italicized</i> text before posting your replies. Mauricio,
If I understand yo…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2010-11-22:2201951:Comment:91512010-11-22T03:45:59.000ZJonhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/Jon
Mauricio,<br />
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If I understand you correctly, you've only had symptoms for three months. I wouldn't even consider surgery of any kind at this stage. For most guys who get this it goes away after a few months, so give it time.
Mauricio,<br />
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If I understand you correctly, you've only had symptoms for three months. I wouldn't even consider surgery of any kind at this stage. For most guys who get this it goes away after a few months, so give it time. thanks Dr. Krongrad. What is…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2010-11-21:2201951:Comment:91472010-11-21T22:24:44.000Zmauricio chenlohttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/mauriciochenlo
thanks Dr. Krongrad. What is your counsel here? I have experience these symptoms for over three months, abdominal pain is coming back. I have not clue what's next. Should I request an ultrasound of my prostate?<br />
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<cite>Arnon Krongrad, MD said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://prostatitis.ning.com/forum/topics/pathology-report?commentId=2201951%3AComment%3A9144&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2201951Comment9144"><div>Unfortunately, "trying" surgery is not like sampling flavors at the ice…</div>
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thanks Dr. Krongrad. What is your counsel here? I have experience these symptoms for over three months, abdominal pain is coming back. I have not clue what's next. Should I request an ultrasound of my prostate?<br />
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<cite>Arnon Krongrad, MD said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://prostatitis.ning.com/forum/topics/pathology-report?commentId=2201951%3AComment%3A9144&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2201951Comment9144"><div>Unfortunately, "trying" surgery is not like sampling flavors at the ice cream stand: There is a great deal more risk involved.<br/> <br/>
To the best of my knowledge, there are no data in regards to the effectiveness of partial prostatectomy, including with laser, to relieve and cure the symptoms of prostatitis. There are clearly cases, as partly described in some of the other discussion threads, in which laser treatment did not work. I am aware of one recent case that made symptoms worse. So before deciding to have such a treatment, be sure to have a thorough discussion about proposed benefits and risks with your surgeon.<br/>
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Let us know how trigger point works for you.</div>
</blockquote> Unfortunately, "trying" surge…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2010-11-21:2201951:Comment:91442010-11-21T09:46:37.000ZArnon Krongrad, MDhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/krongrad
Unfortunately, "trying" surgery is not like sampling flavors at the ice cream stand: There is a great deal more risk involved.<br />
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To the best of my knowledge, there are no data in regards to the effectiveness of partial prostatectomy, including with laser, to relieve and cure the symptoms of prostatitis. There are clearly cases, as partly described in some of the other discussion threads, in which laser treatment did not work. I am aware of one recent case that made symptoms worse. So before…
Unfortunately, "trying" surgery is not like sampling flavors at the ice cream stand: There is a great deal more risk involved.<br />
<br />
To the best of my knowledge, there are no data in regards to the effectiveness of partial prostatectomy, including with laser, to relieve and cure the symptoms of prostatitis. There are clearly cases, as partly described in some of the other discussion threads, in which laser treatment did not work. I am aware of one recent case that made symptoms worse. So before deciding to have such a treatment, be sure to have a thorough discussion about proposed benefits and risks with your surgeon.<br />
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Let us know how trigger point works for you. After doing the massage sessi…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2010-11-20:2201951:Comment:91412010-11-20T23:53:15.000Zmauricio chenlohttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/mauriciochenlo
After doing the massage sessions in Tucson, I'm moving toward the trigger point therapy with a local physical therapist. My urologist seems to be persuaded that is the treatment I need. Meanwhile my continues to get inflamed. If I could afford the surgical removal I would seriously consider it. At least would like to try the green laser therapy.
After doing the massage sessions in Tucson, I'm moving toward the trigger point therapy with a local physical therapist. My urologist seems to be persuaded that is the treatment I need. Meanwhile my continues to get inflamed. If I could afford the surgical removal I would seriously consider it. At least would like to try the green laser therapy. great, at this point I will s…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2010-11-20:2201951:Comment:91392010-11-20T23:49:04.000Zmauricio chenlohttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/mauriciochenlo
great, at this point I will seriously consider surgery if I could afford it!<br></br>
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<cite>Arnon Krongrad, MD said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://prostatitis.ning.com/forum/topics/pathology-report?id=2201951%3ATopic%3A3741&page=2#2201951Comment3965"><div>That was one of the points of <a href="http://www.laprp.com/files/pdf/A_Hole_In_the_Fence.pdf" target="_blank">A Hole in The Fence</a>.<br></br> <br></br> Why do you say pelvic floor treatment is expensive? It would seem to be cheap compared…</div>
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great, at this point I will seriously consider surgery if I could afford it!<br/>
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<cite>Arnon Krongrad, MD said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://prostatitis.ning.com/forum/topics/pathology-report?id=2201951%3ATopic%3A3741&page=2#2201951Comment3965"><div>That was one of the points of <a target="_blank" href="http://www.laprp.com/files/pdf/A_Hole_In_the_Fence.pdf">A Hole in The Fence</a>.<br/> <br/>
Why do you say pelvic floor treatment is expensive? It would seem to be cheap compared with surgery, no?<br/>
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We are opening a new option for cost containment. Beginning in just a few weeks we are beginning to operate in Trinidad, where the cost basis is much lower than in the US. If you want to understand the concept you can browse through <a target="_blank" href="http://emeseye.com">Mobile Surgery International</a>. I'd be curious to know your reaction to the concept.</div>
</blockquote> Exactly! And just like the us…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2009-05-24:2201951:Comment:49122009-05-24T01:12:16.000ZChristofhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/ChristofCook
Exactly! And just like the use of something like a "Tens Unit", which uses the gate-blocking pain theory to reduce or eliminate pain while being used, it does NOT alleviate the cause of the pain, it simply blocks the transmission of the pain signal until your body has healed to the point where pain is no longer present... Pelvic floor exercises, yoga/meditation, "barking at the moon", may all temporarily relieve your symptoms, but they will not cure the cause, the inflamed prostate, unless the…
Exactly! And just like the use of something like a "Tens Unit", which uses the gate-blocking pain theory to reduce or eliminate pain while being used, it does NOT alleviate the cause of the pain, it simply blocks the transmission of the pain signal until your body has healed to the point where pain is no longer present... Pelvic floor exercises, yoga/meditation, "barking at the moon", may all temporarily relieve your symptoms, but they will not cure the cause, the inflamed prostate, unless the inflamed prostate is directly linked to a pinched nerve in the first place... That may be the case in a few of their patients, but those with true prostatitis will probably have to go to them forever to maintain some kind of relief in symptoms, and in the end, isnt that what all too many in the health field want? To treat the symptoms and "manage" the illness, rather than cure it:?<br />
They make much more money that way..... And we all know how expensive it is to live in California.. ;-)<br />
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<cite>Nik said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://prostatitis.ning.com/forum/topics/pathology-report?page=2&commentId=2201951%3AComment%3A4909&x=1#2201951Comment3941"><div>Even if this therapy helps, it is unlikely to be permanent. It is ongoing and expensive, and not readily available to most men on the planet to make regular trips at great expense. At least with surgery it is a one off treatment, once its paid its done and one can get on with his life without travelling the world any more looking for relief.</div>
</blockquote> Although I am a firm believer…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2009-05-24:2201951:Comment:49092009-05-24T01:05:27.000ZChristofhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/ChristofCook
Although I am a firm believer in trigger points and muscle/nerve impingement as being culrpits in many problems people have with chronic pain, I think they are pushing the quackery envelope when trying to convince everyone that prostatitis is not prevalent and that THEIR system (and expensive it is) can take care of everyones "prostatitis".... If they are correct, how did my muscle/nerve pain associated with lumbar injury suddenly go from tolerable and livable, to making me into a 20 lb…
Although I am a firm believer in trigger points and muscle/nerve impingement as being culrpits in many problems people have with chronic pain, I think they are pushing the quackery envelope when trying to convince everyone that prostatitis is not prevalent and that THEIR system (and expensive it is) can take care of everyones "prostatitis".... If they are correct, how did my muscle/nerve pain associated with lumbar injury suddenly go from tolerable and livable, to making me into a 20 lb lighter, unable to work, play, relax, etc., with no "triggering" event such as increased stress, re-injury of my back, etc?<br />
Doesnt make sense to me....<br />
<cite>mike said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://prostatitis.ning.com/forum/topics/pathology-report#2201951Comment3910"><div>Hi Doc,<br/> Well i think there theory is that the prostate has little to do with prostatitis. They feel that the pelvic floor and the surrounding nerves cause the problems. I never understood how the pelvic floor can cause fevers and bloody urine. In the prosatitis world there seem to be two theory’s that have been at war with each other for years. The pelvic floor vs. the prostate.<br/>
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As far as the Stanford protocol. There treatment is basically relaxation, yoga and having a trained pelvic floor pt give daily internal and external massages. Apparently they feel that tight pelvic floor muscles cause prostatitis symptoms. They think the prostate is not involved in a nutshell..It seem like rubbish to me. Yet some men get some relief. My guess is the massage helps relax some inflamed nerves. The treatment is <a href="http://www.pelvicpainhelp.com/">http://www.pelvicpainhelp.com/</a> all info can be found on there site. The book headache in the pelvis is very popular in the prostatitis world. The book focuses on lifestyle changes, massages, yoga, and diet mods to cure the illness. Only problem is it doesnt really work in the real world. What are your thoughts on the link i posted? It seems your study so far is contradicting what these top prostatitis guys are saying.</div>
</blockquote> Yeah I just want to make sure…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2009-02-24:2201951:Comment:40012009-02-24T07:03:37.000ZMarkhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/Mark
Yeah I just want to make sure Krongrad uses his favorite hammer and screwdriver :D
Yeah I just want to make sure Krongrad uses his favorite hammer and screwdriver :D Mobile surgery international…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2009-02-22:2201951:Comment:39812009-02-22T05:44:24.000ZNikhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/NikolasBartley
Mobile surgery international is a great idea.It would also help the costs for the patient by staying in a cheaper country during the initial recovery period before travelling home. As long as you have all your favourite tools & equipment with you Dr Krongrad (joke)...!!!
Mobile surgery international is a great idea.It would also help the costs for the patient by staying in a cheaper country during the initial recovery period before travelling home. As long as you have all your favourite tools & equipment with you Dr Krongrad (joke)...!!!