Prostatitis, or...? - Prostatitis Forum & Social Network2024-03-28T18:17:35Zhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/forum/topics/prostatitis-diagnosis-cipro-symptoms?groupUrl=diagnosis&commentId=2201951%3AComment%3A32371&groupId=2201951%3AGroup%3A6136&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI was going to answer your qu…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2012-10-30:2201951:Comment:345462012-10-30T14:55:15.683Zmr parkhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/mrpark
<p>I was going to answer your question independently but its important to read the other comments as it is a forum and once again Blake is spot on if antibiotics are anti inflammatory in my opionion its because they are killing something!</p>
<p>I was going to answer your question independently but its important to read the other comments as it is a forum and once again Blake is spot on if antibiotics are anti inflammatory in my opionion its because they are killing something!</p> Brian,
I've had prostatitis f…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2012-04-02:2201951:Comment:323782012-04-02T21:49:32.490ZHunter Ghttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/HunterGwynn
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<p>I've had prostatitis for almost 20 years now & I've probably had at least 50 individual prostate massages. The massages hurt like hell every time for me. The first series of drainages were done in Tucson, Az about 10 years ago & they hurt really bad but they also gave me some relief from the pain and symptoms, although none have really seemed to help after the first 2 or 3. I'm not really sure why but I believe that the infection/inflammation is just too deep inside my…</p>
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<p>I've had prostatitis for almost 20 years now & I've probably had at least 50 individual prostate massages. The massages hurt like hell every time for me. The first series of drainages were done in Tucson, Az about 10 years ago & they hurt really bad but they also gave me some relief from the pain and symptoms, although none have really seemed to help after the first 2 or 3. I'm not really sure why but I believe that the infection/inflammation is just too deep inside my prostate for any more relief/penetration & thus the reason they don't help me anymore. I've asked several urologists if everyone should have pain with a prostate massage/drainage & none seem to know.</p>
<p>It appears that most people with prostatitis have considerably more pain with a massage than someone without prostatitis. I believe this is a fairly good diagnosis technique (one way) I also have several calcifications that show up on ultrasound. I've also had enough antibiotics to sink a ship & it essentially ruined my system & gave me candida, so be careful when taking them for a long time. It's very common for a doctor to just prescribe 6 months worth of antibitoics just to get you out of their office for a while & because they don't have a clue as to what's going on.</p> My understanding is that pain…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2012-03-30:2201951:Comment:325862012-03-30T15:28:51.130ZBrian H.https://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/BrianHayden
<p>My understanding is that pain on massage is more common in acute bacterial prostatitis but not necessarily on chronic cases.</p>
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<p>I have just finished a 2nd run of antibiotics.... again, I had almost 100% improvement while on the pills and it's coming back once I'm off of them. First run was Cipro, 2nd was Bactrim. Urologist said if it came back he would put me on doxycycline to cover more of the gram positive bacteria. Not sure I want to go on antibiotics again as I've been on…</p>
<p>My understanding is that pain on massage is more common in acute bacterial prostatitis but not necessarily on chronic cases.</p>
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<p>I have just finished a 2nd run of antibiotics.... again, I had almost 100% improvement while on the pills and it's coming back once I'm off of them. First run was Cipro, 2nd was Bactrim. Urologist said if it came back he would put me on doxycycline to cover more of the gram positive bacteria. Not sure I want to go on antibiotics again as I've been on them for 10 weeks already.</p> Hi Dennis. Pain on massage i…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2012-03-30:2201951:Comment:323712012-03-30T14:42:56.398ZRick Hallhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/RickHall
<p>Hi Dennis. Pain on massage is most common according to the medical field. </p>
<p>Hi Dennis. Pain on massage is most common according to the medical field. </p> I went for one massage and th…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2012-03-30:2201951:Comment:323702012-03-30T14:35:30.828ZDennis Taylorhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/DennisTaylor
<p>I went for one massage and the pain was through the roof. I did not enjoy that experience, at all.</p>
<p>I went for one massage and the pain was through the roof. I did not enjoy that experience, at all.</p> Hi Dave. I have been on cipro…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2012-03-30:2201951:Comment:326782012-03-30T14:26:48.610ZRick Hallhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/RickHall
<p>Hi Dave. I have been on cipro and doxycycl at different time periods. At best I did notice some symptom relief as long as I was taking them. When I stopped, my symptoms returned. I went to a very highly regarded medical facility and was told it was not my prostate and they didnt know what was causing my symptoms. This was based on my lack of pain during the massage. This just added to the frustration. So far Ive had an MRI, CT scan, endoscopy, colonoscopy, and a small bowel series. …</p>
<p>Hi Dave. I have been on cipro and doxycycl at different time periods. At best I did notice some symptom relief as long as I was taking them. When I stopped, my symptoms returned. I went to a very highly regarded medical facility and was told it was not my prostate and they didnt know what was causing my symptoms. This was based on my lack of pain during the massage. This just added to the frustration. So far Ive had an MRI, CT scan, endoscopy, colonoscopy, and a small bowel series. Nothing else has shown up. I DO believe my prostate is the problem according to my symptoms and so does Dr. K. Most likely Im going to have the surgery when Im done testing.</p> Hi Rick, just out of interes…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2012-03-30:2201951:Comment:325852012-03-30T07:58:38.201ZDavehttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/Dave
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<p>Hi Rick, just out of interest, have antibiotics ever had any effect on it for you? - i.e. noticeable yet temporary improvement? Your experience in general sounds very like mine ... nothing to point at the prostate, yet nothing to point anywhere else either, yet this big nasty problem sitting right across that area. My prostate has never hurt on massage either, though once I had it done and had the worst 2 weeks of my life following on from that.</p>
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<p>Hi Rick, just out of interest, have antibiotics ever had any effect on it for you? - i.e. noticeable yet temporary improvement? Your experience in general sounds very like mine ... nothing to point at the prostate, yet nothing to point anywhere else either, yet this big nasty problem sitting right across that area. My prostate has never hurt on massage either, though once I had it done and had the worst 2 weeks of my life following on from that.</p> I have discussed my symptoms…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2012-03-30:2201951:Comment:323692012-03-30T03:28:31.966ZRick Hallhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/RickHall
<p>I have discussed my symptoms with many doctors and urologists. Thus far, I have received different opinions on what are the cause of my symptoms. The opinions that believe my prostate is not the cause are based on the fact that my symptoms are not reproduced when my prostate is massaged. I have learned that many times those that benefited from prostatectomy surgery did not experience pain when their prostate was massaged. Those that think I do have prostate issues have no solution that…</p>
<p>I have discussed my symptoms with many doctors and urologists. Thus far, I have received different opinions on what are the cause of my symptoms. The opinions that believe my prostate is not the cause are based on the fact that my symptoms are not reproduced when my prostate is massaged. I have learned that many times those that benefited from prostatectomy surgery did not experience pain when their prostate was massaged. Those that think I do have prostate issues have no solution that has been proven to work. To make a very long story short, very little is known about CP. I can relate to your frustration. I have been told to "man up", "do nothing" because surgery is just too risky, "its all in your head", "take a pain pill". Dr Krongrad is the only doctor who seemed to understand and care about my problem. I admit, this typed of surgery is scary. Im currently having alot of tests run in an attempt to rule out other problems that could cause these same symptoms. I would hate to have a prostatectomy and it not rid me of my symptoms. So far nothing else has shown up. However the attitudes of some of these doctors has been unreal. </p> Thanks for the replies gentle…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2012-02-17:2201951:Comment:322092012-02-17T17:54:51.983ZBrian H.https://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/BrianHayden
<p>Thanks for the replies gentlemen. I should say that I am not yet complaining about the doctors who are treating me. I am still early in this process of understanding the cause of my symptoms and starting out with antibiotics is understandable as a first guess. I will NOT continue to be prescribed antibiotics if they don't work, or if the recurrence rate seems high.</p>
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<p>I should also mention that it wasn't my doctor who suggested that it was some other response to the antibiotics,…</p>
<p>Thanks for the replies gentlemen. I should say that I am not yet complaining about the doctors who are treating me. I am still early in this process of understanding the cause of my symptoms and starting out with antibiotics is understandable as a first guess. I will NOT continue to be prescribed antibiotics if they don't work, or if the recurrence rate seems high.</p>
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<p>I should also mention that it wasn't my doctor who suggested that it was some other response to the antibiotics, that was my own conjecture. I am a research scientist in a non-medical field; I have seen many studies indicating that antibiotics provide temporary relief for men where no bacteria can be found. The recurrence of symptoms is very high, however. There have also been studies that antibiotics greatly improve symptoms of inflammatory diseases such as Crohn's disease and irritable bowel syndrome. I just wanted to know if anyone has seen research on the anti-inflammatory role of antibiotics in the prostate. I couldn't find any mention of it.</p>
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<p></p> From what I've heard, this is…tag:prostatitis.ning.com,2012-02-17:2201951:Comment:320042012-02-17T17:22:41.479ZDennis Taylorhttps://prostatitis.ning.com/profile/DennisTaylor
<p>From what I've heard, this is a common complaint of men with CP, that their urologists just shrug it off. Even my urologist said, well if you still have this in 6 months, come back to see me.</p>
<p>6 months??? What about now? So I have to live with my life in ruins for 6 more months?</p>
<p>After I had my prostatectomy, I was talking to a GP about it and he said, "Well, we have a pretty good health care system in Canada and if removal of the prostate was an effective treatmen, more people…</p>
<p>From what I've heard, this is a common complaint of men with CP, that their urologists just shrug it off. Even my urologist said, well if you still have this in 6 months, come back to see me.</p>
<p>6 months??? What about now? So I have to live with my life in ruins for 6 more months?</p>
<p>After I had my prostatectomy, I was talking to a GP about it and he said, "Well, we have a pretty good health care system in Canada and if removal of the prostate was an effective treatmen, more people would be doing them."<br/>Again, more arrogance.</p>
<p>I wanted to say to him, "Ok, so your point is, for men with CP, they should just suck it up and suffer?"</p>
<p>You have no treatment for a large portion of men that have this condition and all you have to offer is indifference?</p>
<p>I would go further and say it's absolutely inhumane.</p>
<p>However, I think you could extend this to chronic pain sufferers in general.</p>