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Acute and chronic prostatitis discussion. Arnon Krongrad, MD, moderator.
yes white blood cells indicate the present of a foreign organism. The key to getting an accurate result is to have a good sample that is not contaminated. The problem is when you get a sample of the prostatic fluid it has to come out through the urethra so whatever organisms are at the tip of your penis will contaminate the sample. This is why i dont think you have S aureus or Epidermis...these 2 dont grow in the urinary tract unless you had a catheder placed in your urethra from a hospital stay. If you are at higher risk of STD then its possible that you have chlamydia in there which is difficult to grow on media. You need special skills and growth media to grow that type of bacteria.
I know where you're coming from, I understand the problem but in spite of your frustration, please respect others reading this thread - you're adding unnecessary rubbish posts - whatever comes to your mind...
I had provided enough information about autoimmune vaccines earlier - read it twice and follow provided URLs to read more. Prices vary, you can make this vaccine in Prague (Czech Republic) for about 120 EUR; similar price in Krakow, Poland. Technology is the same, and both locations are EU Regulated, within European Union. They also publish statistical data regarding effectiveness of such autoimmune vaccines - example (use Google Chrome browser to translate easily): http://www.leklab.cz/autovakciny
I'd suggest to talk to an immunologist instead of forum folks. Your tests should be repeated some time after antibiotics (at least 3 weeks after). You should also carry out PCR DNA tests apart from cultures. PCR DNA uro-genital panel: Chlamydia trachomatis, Ureaplasma, Mycoplasma, etc - smear test from urethra, 1st morning urine, and ejaculate. Blood markers for chlamydia tr. and borrelia may be useful (ELISA IgA, IgG), and Western Blot.
S aureus is not found in the Urinary tract unless you have a blood infection with this bacteria or you had a catheter in your urethra so it is very unlikey you are infected with this bacteria.
Bacterial vaccines are used in all countries ..such as pneumoccocal vaccine. They just have not been using vaccines in the west against urinary tract infections ...why not? im not sure but i suspect the market is not big enough and the big pharmaceuticals have no interest to pursue this avenue. DNA is not used for bacterial vaccines...they use part of the polyshaccaride coating which envelopes the bacterial. DNA/RNA is for virus vaccines.
I dont see how the doctor can normalize your immune system ..its not like you are severely ill and cant fight off infections.
As far as the credibility of the labs is concerned, i tried to do some research but i couldnt find any patient stories attesting to their success from using those labs. Novak is the only one i could find. This is why im not eager to spend 5000 without a definite track record.
in the odessa lab they require 4500 Euro for everything diagnostic and vaccines ?
Sam - I have 10% of initial symptoms sporadically, however, as I described in my post regarding vaccines, I got rid of most symptoms almost immediately when I started using vaccine for my enterococcus (3rd dose out of 10 brought me a massive relief). My semen samples had Enterococcus faecalis bacteria (10^3 - 10^4 growth depending on the lab) and are sterile now in these 2 independent labs.
Again, I don't want to duplicate my posts - similarly, I don't want to recommend any lab, I listed labs that I know...
If you no longer have a bacteria in several good labs, then autoimmune vaccine is not a solution for you (regardless of your experience with antibiotic-driven relief - antibiotics have anti inflammatory properties).
I am unsubscribing myself from email notifications, I cannot dedicate more time to this 'discussion' with you Sam.
go to my page and lets continue the discussion there so that we dont bother other people here. I have opened my own discussion thread
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